Disneyland, Disney World Offer Early Entry to Disney+ Subs

So let me get this straight: paying $850 a night to stay at the Grand Californian doesn't get me into the parks early any more, but paying $9.99 to subscribe to Disney+ does?

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Bob Chapek is Satan and the current Disney Board are lesser demons.

In other words, if you're not a Disney+ subscriber and have plans to visit the parks on Friday, CHANGE YOUR PLANS and avoid Disney parks at all cost.

I'm curious to see the Venn Diagram of Disney+ subscribers and Disney Parks visitors. Are there actually two circles there?

I think that you hit the nail on the head Robert

I think those 2 circles have a lot of overlap, but like most subscription streaming services, a lot of people probably toggle their subscriptions on and off. So while most visitors to Disney parks have probably had a Disney+ subscription at some point in time, not all of them have an active subscription (especially since a number of highly rated series like Loki and What If? finished their runs earlier this fall and new content like Book of Boba Fett and Hawkeye aren't debuting until later this year). Also, not every Disney+ subscriber might have planned a visit to a park before the announcement, so if those guests were able to secure a Park Pass (even if they're local Magic Key Holders or staying at an off-site hotel), they will be flooding the parks before non-Disney+ subscribers can get in.

To all of those who are paying a premium at a Disney resort so they can get in early on Friday this week: LOL!

@TwoBits - Word is that on-site resort guests are being given 60 minute early entry to all parks. So the LOL is really at the expense of off-site guests who don't have Disney+ (but are planning to visit the parks that day), because not only are they behind the on-site guests that they already accounted for, but now they'll be stuck behind all the Disney+ subscribers too.

@Russell and @twobits--are you saying that Magic Morning Hours at DL have been reinstated? They weren't when we were there in August, and I've seen nothing (and see nothing) saying that they have been, hence my complaint above.

Resort MMH have not been reinstated in California as far as I know. However, in Florida, those resort privileges were reinstated when Genie went live in October. My guess is that on-site early entry will return to California when those parks turn on Genie.

The only way to get into DL and DCA early right now is to have a Disney+ subscription, and that perk is ONLY for November 12.

Okay, thanks Russell. We like to stay on property, but I swore I would not return until they brought back MMH, as it's simply not worth the cost without it.

Now, of course, we'll see if Chapek cuts MMH to MM30mins. If he does, that may be (yet another) potential dealbreaker for me.

FWIW thecolonel, I don't think MMH is that big of a deal for guests at California like it is in Florida. Despite the outrageous prices (even compared to similarly apportioned resorts/hotels within walking distance of the parks), Disney was able to fill those hotels, and still had the ability to give early entry to certain ticket holders that were not staying on-site (multi-day tickets and admissions bought through certain partners like AAA). It's obviously an important perk for you, but I get the impression that people weren't making their decision to stay at the DL Resorts solely because of MMH, and obviously wasn't the deal killer preventing the resorts from selling out (WDW resorts were struggling a bit before it was announced that EMH would return, granted Florida has a lot more rooms to fill - and staff to employ - than California).

While I think the perk is likely to return when Genie rolls out, there's a very distinct possibility that the Disneyland resorts simply abandon the MMH perk altogether.