Disney is changing and now expanding the role of one of its cult-favorite theme park characters.
For years, fans have chanted "We wants the redhead," along with the drunken pirates in the auction scene of the Pirates of the Caribbean ride at Disney theme parks around the world. Last year, Disney announced that it would redesign the scene, changing the role of the iconic Redhead from trafficked victim of the pirates raiding the city to an active participant in that sacking.
The recast Redhead, who debuted on Walt Disney World's Pirates of the Caribbean ride earlier this year, now brandishes a gun as the line-up of townspeople behind her now await their chance to "sell" their valuable to the pirates, instead of being sold off to the pirates themselves. (Some of those townspeople are male now, too, dialing out the misogyny of the scene.)
Disneyland also is renovating its Pirates ride to include the new version of the auction scene. But that's not the only change for the Redhead at Walt Disney's original theme park. Disneyland announced today that "Redd," as the character is now officially being called, will become a walk-around face character in New Orleans Square this summer, too.
In Disney's retconned backstory for Redd, she's now profit-seeking pirate who's owed a ship by none other than Captain Jack Sparrow. And she will be looking for "brave sorts of recruits for a few little ventures" at Disneyland, too.
Now how about Disney rebooting its played-out multi-billion dollar Pirates of the Caribbean film franchise to replace the toxic-in-Hollywood Johnny Depp with... Redd as the new lead pirate? (Don't think for a moment that someone at Disney hasn't considered this idea.) Just get Jennifer Lawrence some red hair dye and we're all good to go here, right?
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I rather take a photo with Captain Barbossa.
BFD...Just like Disney to spend endless hours creating a completely unnecessary backstory for a character guests couldn't care less about. This is about as useful as the pages of backstory for Disney Springs. Glad to see Imagineering has spare time on their hands.
Daniel,
They're stealing the goods, not buying them, which is why I put "sell" in quotes. Calling it an "auction" is ironic and a clever anachronistic commentary on modern PR spin from the Imagineers, IMHO.
I also implied that the old *scene* was misogynistic. You are correct in that the Pirates spread the abuse around in the rest of the ride, but this is about the auction scene, specifically.
Nah! I think the idea for this new character (which is consistent with PATP design) is better than the backstory of DSTP.
I didn't say the the backstory wasn't good, just that it's unnecessary, and a waste of valuable Imagineering resources. If they're working with the production division to develop a character for a future Pirates movie, fine, but to simply put this much effort into a silly walk-around character based on an animatronic figure is a waste of time.
Give the actresses a standard script, a 1-page character template, and let them do their job, improvise, and develop the character from that based on guest reaction. For a company that is so good at squeezing pennies out of every last nook and cranny, I'm always surprised at some of the frivolous waste within Disney.
I just think it's fun. May I be "allowed" to post that?
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You can, and I can say it's wasteful and unnecessary.
(Picard Facepalm)
Dude, You just write like 300 words in a couple of posts regarding a minor and mildly humorous idea implemented in a theme park and you're pontificating on what is a waste of time?
(Chuckle)
I expect Barry to show up any minute.
@Robert
Ok but that makes less sense. Why would they willingly attend a faux auction where they themselves could be sold and why would the Pirates bother when they could take one or both?
I spent maybe 3 minutes composing my "like 300 words" providing an opinion, which was in no way a criticism of you or your opinion (unless the mere mention of Disney Springs offends you now). Disney, on the other hand, undoubtedly spent hundreds of hours coming up with Redd's backstory in addition to the countless hours of marketing power being put behind this. Add to that who knows how many more hours they will spend refining this character after she actually starts appearing in the parks and garners reactions from guests.
I'm merely stating they could have spent their energy on other things, and let the live actors flesh out this character in real time with real guest reactions. I prefer the old way of introducing new characters to the park where they would randomly show up and see if guests are drawn to them instead of posting pages of backstory on the internet hoping guests will read it.
Well, Disney took an original character, the Redhead, and changed her character and the context. So why not recast her and everyone will have the revitalized renewed and revived Redhead for everyone to admire and ogle. This is the best they can do and it is a PR stunt. No one will refuse to take a picture with such a lovely character. The old Redhead is already forgotten.
In the meantime, everyone is lining up for the new lemon soft serve at the Adorable Snowman. While Red went from vivacious to outlaw, the snowman went from monster to gentle giant.
Classic.
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Please not Jennifer Lawrence... those Hunger Games were just as painful to watch as the last Pirates film.
Also, I agree with Daniel. The scene makes no sense. They should have given us something awesome so we would forget what was there before.
Perfect. They didn't just chabge the scene, which would've been easily forgotten. No, they decided to uograde the Pirates on the parks, making them even more relevant now, and opening a sea of possibilities with this new character.
(And it is definitely NOT a waste of time to create a backstory. Disney always does that, and that helps expando the ride into something more, just as with the TCF restaurant in Universal.)
My GAWD, that interview with the redhead is so cringe...
There's a back story to Disney Springs? Why?
http://allears.net/ae/issue950.htm
Wow, I did not know about this. It's certainly intersting, even if not really necessary.
So is this a magical pirate and not the one that kills, steals and tortures her way around the Caribbean? It must be, one moment she is in the ride, the other moment she is walking around vaguely looking like the woman in the ride. I'm sure she will have great stories about stealing flowers but later giving them back or waterboarding a man but not just really drowning him because she actually was washing his face. Oh Disney...
Here is our piece on the backstory of Disney Springs, from 2014: What's the story behind Disney Springs, and why does it matter?
The redhead never was a victim; she knew exactly what she was doing. Now the redhead's been dumbed down to fit the whims of our modern B.S. "society". Hey Generation Stupid, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Who else upon seeing that picture thought....Amelia Pond
I LOVE backstories to stuff in Disney. I remember in 1989 the full backstories for Typhoon Lagoon and Pleasure Island, made them feel far better than just some run of the mill park. And Blizzard Beach still works with the nutty idea of a freak Orlando snowstorm, a ski resort created in just days before it melted and turned into a water park. It really does help so I love how Disney puts them in.
The backstory fails to explain how all of these heavy goods they are "stealing or buying whichever" isn't going to sink their ship. Now if disney spend a huge amount of money and made that the last scene, it would be worthwhile.
Otherwise, this new scene makes approx zero logical sense. If they crumble to PC and snowflakes for that scene. Why are they not crumbing to them about all of the guns on the ride?
We could ask the walkaround red (during the meet n greet) how she would handle harvey weinstein if he forced himself on her. that should be a fun exchange. Let's enter the social outrage scene, along with the snowflakes who wanted the change. Or. we can ask her how she can morally stand by, why the mayor gets drowned and not try to help him. She is stealing from the townspeople (at the least) or and in concert with the pirates (across the river) drowning the mayor. Why is disney endorsing criminality, then? they also endorsed criminality deciding to host the collector's exhibition in their theme park. The building could not be there without disney's permission
This was one of the last rides Walt Disney helped with before he passed away. I think it’s a slap in his face in changing the story to “be more appropriate”. We still wants the real red head but Disney will do anything to like their pockets createimg/changing characters and propaganda for them. It used to be a place that hardly ever changed where memories for gerations lived on in the magic. I know several people who will not be renewing their passes annoyed by the sudden political correct shift and hikes in prices. That was not Walt’s dream. Pinocchio doesn’t even say the word jackass anymore which is a donkey people. A donkey. Enjoy your participation trophy’s and loss of magical innocence.
I never ceased to be amazed when people criticize change as the effect of "crumbling to PC and snowflakes." In fact, this scene in question has long made many people uncomfortable, and for good reason. Factually accurate or not (it's not), the scene is undeniably sexist, and leads to many uncomfortable discussions with children, especially young girls.
If it makes a large number of people unhappy or uncomfortable, that's reason enough to change it. Time change, people change, and archaic concepts need to change, too. Kudos for Disneyland for finally listening to their patrons and ending this unnecessarily hurtful scene.
Now, if only they will take the opportunity of the new Jungle Cruise movie to retrofit that racist abomination. We were there two weeks ago, and our boat stopped in front of the "headhunter" at the end, which is absolutely a false and racist depiction of indigenous people. It's offensive to me, a white guy, I can only imagine how black parents feel when they ride by with their kids.
Will it be "crumbling to PC and snowflakes" if they change the Jungle Cruise? No, it will updating the ride so that it isn't needlessly offensive in light of our current social awareness.
This whole thing is absolutely absurd. At what point will it end? Will we see the Bride removed from the Mansion because the idea of a greedy gold-digger is sexist? Is Splash Mountain on life-support because the characters come from an obscure Disney Animated Film which featured insensitive depictions of blacks? What about Tom Sawyer's Island? Didn't Twain create N****r Jim? Isn't it absurd that Disney still has an island dedicated to a character written but such an abject racist? Never EVER give the SJW crowd an inch, or they will take a mile. There's nothing 'progressive' about this, just blatant pandering to a crowd of people who have no intention to improve the historical or societal dialectic. They are cultural tyrants. Chronological Snobbery at its finest on display here.
@64
Me and the majority of people with real world problems beyond theme park kiddy rides could care less about your easily offended sensibilities. If you can't handle the jokes and fun in these rides then just make your way to It's a Small World and Storybook Land Canal Boats for a more mild experience.
Social Justice Warriors are dishonest power mad idiots. Why gain respect the old fashioned way by working hard and developing skills when you can instantly win the applause of fellow morons by bashing the social credentials of those who are far more skillful, intelligent and hard working than your lazy degenerate selves? America has a sorry future.
I think the character is great. It makes sense to write a story about a stand out figure that has been re-imagined. It feels like a good starting place for a PotC movie version too.
Things will change in time. Let's be brave and move forward. It'll be ok!
I can't believe that there are men in this thread actively complaining about the addition of a hot redhead to the characters walking around in Disneyland.
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Since when do Pirates buy goods from people and doesn't that kind of negate the need to lay seige to and invade the town lol? If they wanted to be PC just delete the scene altogether and have Redd brandish a cutlass and duel some towns person, the pirates in the other side could be cheering her on (maybe they could even be her crew). They made the ride less realistic and less believable in an attempt to be PC.
Ironically the ride is not 'misogynistic' at all as there are plenty of male victims as well, most notably the ones bound and being drowned in the well along with the Mayor whom, unfortunately due to the discriminatory nature of the PC minded, are cared little about.
It's sad that those with so little creativity have such an influence in altering one of Mr. Disneys last and greatest stories.